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We All Survive the Physical Death of Our Bodies

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  1. Teresa says:

    A great article, thank you. The only point I would dispute is the ‘literal burning hell’ concept. This is more likely to be a thoughtform, our own lifetime accumulation of guilt, shame and sorrow. Only those conscious and with a conscience would be capable of creating this, because they bitterly regret that they have caused harm and sorrow to others. Like the story of the Prodigal Son, it brings great joy and relief to others when someone is able to change their outlook in this way. I believe that God will never rest until all parts of himself are re-united, and that every one of us has that spark of God which will never go out – even if it takes nearly forever to ‘see the light’. Perhaps those evil beings who test us are merely thoughtforms, negative projections like the Tibetan Buddhist ‘Tulpas’.

  2. cathy jones says:

    I enjoyed your article very much and have already read Dr Alexander’s book a short time ago. It’s good to see some attention is being brought to it because the message it contains can change humanity and our brief existance in this reality.

  3. TheoCcupier says:

    I agree with much that is written here apart from the bit about Hell. The word Hell or Hades simply means ‘the grave’. It is not a place of torment or burning! We are all Infinite Consciousness, even if in this lifetime we did evil things, ultimately we are just playing a part like an actor on stage. Some parts are the villains, some are the heroes. At death we choose our post life experiences in the Astra plane. Unless you wanted to experience a classic Dante’s Inferno existence, you have the choice to experience what you like! You take control.

    Also about the taking snake in the Garden of Eden. There was no garden, there was no snake. It’s all symbolic! The snake represents the rising Kundalini energy of the spine. For more information I’d suggest looking up Bill Donahue on Youtube or visiting his website http://www.hiddenmeanings.com.

    Happy days. No fear of Hell.

  4. TheoCcupier says:

    Regarding my comment above, here is a link I’ve found in which Bill describes the true meaning of Hell much better than I could: http://youtu.be/qmO2tWkMbIs

    He gets into it around the 9 minute mark…

  5. Lisa says:

    The concept of unbelievable torment in hell is the indoctrination by church dogma to suppress and control people.

  6. James says:

    I believe that Hell is a state of mind. The burning flames are a metaphor for our burning desires, which we will have if our thoughts while on Earth are obsessed with the lower desires, addictions, and carnal pleasures. When in spirit we will no longer have a dense physical body to act out those desires or attachments, so will be tormented for as long as it takes to elevate ourselves away from them. If this makes sense to you, try reading The Spirit’s Book by Allan Kardec.

  7. Don says:

    I have earlier commented on this article but for some reason you have not allowed it.
    It is good to see such articles as this, they affirm what bis revealed in the ancient Vedic scriptures, where the fact of multi universes is stated, and peoples or beings of greater intelligence exist, also in those writings, the multi dimensionality of reality is covered. Further more the stste of the soul is revealed as being immortal.I look forward to reading this book. Thankyou for the article.

    1. admin says:

      Really sorry, Don. Something went wrong with my spam filter. I’m afraid it took some real comments for script-generated spams. I’ve now disabled it and approve comments manually. It’s a real problem: every time an article is featured on David Icke’s website, I have a huge ‘spam attack’.

      1. TheoCcpier says:

        ..but aren’t you glad David Icke is helping to spread this article? Personally I may have missed it if he hadn’t posted it up on his headlines page. The only computer you can trust to filter out spam effectively, is the one you’re wearing [your body]. :)

        1. admin says:

          Of course I’m glad. :-) And I usually don’t trust all that ‘automatic’ stuff. Just felt too sick for about a month, so gave it a try. The result is bad. But the experience is good! :-)

      2. Don says:

        Hmm, lots of people trying to dish the truth about reality, still it shows they are on the run. People really are worried about the truth concerning god. Vedanta tells us we are part and parcel of the universal consciousness and we are all inhered within it, for egomaniacs such a thing is not to their liking, they like to think they are the controllers, yet not one of them can stop themselves pissing or shitting, excuse the language. We could go into this deeper, but enough said for now.

  8. Si says:

    I read with interest until it came to the same old that the supreme being, ‘the creator’ is once again. Just some bitter and twisted, egomaniacal entity that needs to punish an prove and test. I’m surprised that this is on David’s site. What a pity, I feel really disheartened by this TBH. According to this the creator (a word I despise) has not itself gotten some pretty base human character defects – how sad!!

    1. admin says:

      Pity, Si, you haven’t read David’s newest book, Remember Who You Are. :-)

      1. Si says:

        I was at Wembley so I’d be interestead to know what you mean cos I can’t see how what I heard there applies to this piece. i’ve never heard of him speak of a creator and from what I understand when talking of whatever happens after this (life) we become one with everything once more. Not an individual unit of consciousness that can be judged and punished. That’s just another version of my RC upbringing that led me to atheism. I don’t think of myself like Don speaks about who think of myself as a ‘the controller’ but this idea, creators, heaven-like afterlife and punishment just seems like a version of the doctrine we’ve been fed by organised religion: A means of bringing those who are ‘straying’ back into line while at the same time letting them feel a little bit different.

  9. P Blakey says:

    Bob Monroe had a good explanation for the ‘lower levels’ which were what he termed ‘belief system territories’ that people could get stuck in depending on how they left the earth level experience. So if you were a devout Christian you might end up initially in a belief system territory which was an imaginary heaven. Or if you were a devout Christian who felt he had sinned, you might end up in a version of hell. I think what the good doctor may have experienced was the reality of being locked in the lower brain processes.

    Just my two cents worth. I am extremely pleased that he wrote the book.

  10. Carolynn Anderson says:

    I have recently had one of my beloved children pass over. David’s article about the “Proof of Heaven” has shown up on a day of deep sadness for me. I’ve believed in this heaven for years, but it sure helps to have two admired people regard it as I do. My views of hell are different, but I guess I’ll have to wait my turn to find out for sure. If any good has come of my son’s death, it is a closer, more loving family, and my determination to be even a kinder and more involved soul. I’m grateful this appeared on my screen today; it made me smile to think of my boy in that wonderful place.

  11. Janice says:

    This article has some good information, however… The parts about being judged by a supreme being and some people burning in eternal hell are just not accurate. Reading ONE account of a NDE is hardly having knowledge of the afterlife. You need to read many accounts from several different people. In addition, there are many good books on past-life regressions with time spent in the life between lives. Once you read all these many accounts that have similar descriptions of life on the other side, you realize that THERE IS NO ETERNAL HELL! The concept of hell is a fear device invented by the church to control the actions of others. The few people who do experience a hellish scene when they cross over do so because they have a deep belief in hell and think that they deserve to be punished.
    We live MANY lives in the third-dimension because we have so much to learn. We decide before we come into life on this dimension, what roles we will play. We make contracts with others in our soul group as to the parts that we will play. Some may even be “evil” parts. How else can we learn if all we experience is good?
    After our physical life ends, we review our own lives and experience everything that we caused others to experience. WE JUDGE OURSELVES based on this review. Then we decide whether or not to return to physical life and what lessons to work on. We are forgiven EVERYTHING on the other side because only LOVE IS REAL there. Remember David Icke’s book “Infinite Love Is the Only Truth: Everything Else Is Illusion”?
    Though much of this article is good material, I’m afraid the author is using the fear of eternal damnation and of having only one life to fight “evil” in an attempt to influence people in some way. A lot of truth mixed with the right amount of untruth is just more propaganda. If he is being sincere, then hopefully he will read more on the afterlife and life between lives. The only hell that truly exists is on this illusion of a dense planet and we have the power to change that by choosing unconditional love as our religion.

    1. Raymond Sutcliffe says:

      I have read quite a bit on this subject, and I think that what you have written is spot on!

  12. barney says:

    I enjoyed what I believed to be an open minded, what if, who knows, (it’s ok, were human, we don’t know it all)-(I find that empowerin), again under the guise of suedo spiritual love, at the end is ‘ god, basically, u dare question me?) quite sure if there’s a god he/she/omnipotent cacti with revolving x ray glasses, that it /they would be beyond ego, conveyer belt, robotic, learnt behaviours. here to learn, it’s just this burn in HELL indoctrination an judgement day codswallop, I feel it keeps us chained. sorry about the soapbox, all take care x

  13. I ENJOYED THE ARTICLE VERY VERY MUCH….ONE LOVE HEART TO HEART

  14. Mike says:

    I found the whole article pretty consistent with other accounts except for the literal burning hell. I know the religious love to ascribe this explanation to such experiences but Alexander himself in a recent Coast to Coast interview said that the muddy darkness of what felt like tree roots or tubular structures was most likely a construct of his own, not to be taken literally.

    Figuratively I’m sure that anyone could create their own state of imbalance(i suppose the religious will call it hell), out of frequency or vibration with higher realms, possibly because of guilt, negative emotions or addictions. And some of us would even rather describe this higher consciousness as a programmer rather than a God. It’s just a matter of perspective I suppose. The important thing is that we are all talking about the same things, and that there in fact is something outside of this simulation. Time/space concepts completely make sense when you think of looking at our universe from the outside and imagining scrubbing back and forth through the simulation with a slider so to speak. Scrub back to see what has already been calculated in the sim, and scrubbing forward would produce not a literal telling of the future, but a probable telling of the future based on calculations in the present moment. Of course, outside of the sim, that time doesn’t apply or exist. It literally is confined to our simulation(reality). I’ve gone off on a tangent. It’s time for me to shut up

  15. maya says:

    Dr. A’s experience fits nicely into the legit descriptions of NDE, and a lot if it is similar to my own NDE experience, only I was very lucky to never have to see a hell realm.
    Mikes interpretation and expansion on it all tends to start labeling things a fair bit. In my experience I don’t think it’s only god (in my case ‘the great light’) that judges us. In fact I can’t for the life of me decide conclusively if the reason I had to go back to earth was judged by god or by me. The reason I can’t figure this part out is that we were one at the time! :D

    Secondly his theory that earth may be the most evil infested realms in the universe may need some defining. If you consider all of the possible dimensions that interweave with the earth as part of the Earth realm, then according to the accounts i’ve read from what i believe as psychically talented people, his statement is correct.
    That said, this hell stuff is out of my experience range, I’m only going by other stuff I’ve read and heard.

    The idea about not being able to comprehend the vastness of our existance through our tiny human brains is also correct and I experienced this vividly as I attempted to retain what I had learned of the universe on the way back to my body, and noticed “oh sh**! my brain is so minute! no way I could fit even a quarter of this stuff in!!”, I tried nonetheless :D

  16. maya says:

    (Apologies for my lame facebook English, there seems to be no way to edit a post after it’s up) :P

  17. Tarek says:

    Due to the complexity of such a subject, discussion using a limited mind as i would call to judge or make decisions about this specific matter would be difficult given our current conditions, in my persional opinion we all are biased in one way or another thats due to having 1 and im serious about 1 educational system that made us think the way we do or even dicuss the way we do.. i Believe that just like we had “test” to pass to get this so called “degree” from university and in result be heard from people as “educated” or “credible”, so in order to make theories about wether or not there is a “Hell fire” or not or if its a metaphore or what, one should leave this perspective of thinking and move to a whole different angel, in conclusion which is very simple just like people follow a certain writer or hear out their friends say that this specific book is a good read and actually do read it, i tell u guys out of pure LOVE, there is a very good read that explains everything about this thing we call life and this journey and has scientific break throughs that were recently found in the 21 century but whats amazing about this book is that its over 2000 years old by then a microscope was not even invented, and people up until now know and cant deny that this book is not written by a human writer to whome we can give the credibility to and basically the ONLY thing that talks about the “after life”, so just like it is impossible for the world to hear me speak about physics due to me not having any “DEGREE” from reading and being tested, any of us talking about after life and heaven or hell would be uncredible unless we read the holy books (all 3 of them), not just read like a magazine but understand and give it the time, then come to dicuss if we do believe in this or that, scollars cant help due to the idea of perception these books were created for all levels of intellect so NO ONE can draw a picture unless you get in touch with it, if you choose not to then we cant take the blame of not understanding due to us not BEING PREPARED or UNDEREDUCATED.

  18. Annu says:

    Great article, I just don’t agree with the “eternal Hell”- part. There is no such thing as eternal hell. Every soul has to go forward and evolve, no matter how dark or evil they are. Everyone gets what they deserve, and surely some people will go to a place what they would call hell, but even they have travel towards the Light.
    I am no christian, but this is to you who are: the original, authentic Bible says that there is a Hell where you stay for “some time”. Later this was translated to mean “eternal hell”, in order to control people and make them fear.

  19. Pasco David says:

    David excellent always good to hear what you say, the dots have come together and humanity is in for a big shift. I have had to many experiences to go into to confirm my belief. Outer body so to speak, I would say we are not in our body but conscious of the physical vibration as well as others.It was a shock for me when I had my first conscious shift, as all the cells on my body activated and vibrated, my eyes open like a Camera Lens, Panoramic view also 4D not 3D I could see 180 degrees in front of me all in focus to a pin head. A rush of energy followed then I looked in the mirror at myself and did not recognise myself as it was not my physical self and my pupils were nearly as big as my eyes! I soon as I relax and meditate it comes back. My dreams play out and teach me too. I am a Ving Tsun Kung Fu teacher and us this to ground myself in this reality knowing there is more to our so called physical existence and be the best I can be.

  20. Rick Lopez says:

    Excellent article. I think you nailed it dead on and i also have read Dr. Alexander’s book. There is another excellent book on the subject of NDE’s called “My Descent Into Death” By Howard Storm who was a self proclaimed atheist until his experience. His book is really quite amazing and if you look on youtube for Howard Storm there are some excellent interviews with him discussing his NDE and his conversation with the angels about life in the universe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqJECcP04Ls&list=FLHCp91KgBiEtWd-rRELRqEQ&index=6

  21. Jonah says:

    This is absolutely magical!

    All is energy, all is eternal.

    All is pure light – or better yet, pure consciousness.

    God/Energy is everything. We are a part of this energy flow. We are the Universe.

    JANICE – I totally agree with you, please send me an email, I would like to discuss with you. infinity888@countermail.com

    If you want to understand the Universe from another angle, realise that everything is light and vibrations.

    Yes, a very intelligent light indeed!

  22. Amyah says:

    Well! I had 2 of these experiences where I died for short moments. These experiences changed my perception of life and afterlife forever.

    This said, I don’t believe in his conception of hell — at least, the words he is using to describe it. I think that these experiences, while made at the level of the soul, can be tinted by our own beliefs — or surrounding religious beliefs — when we come back to this dense reality and try to make sense of it and try to translate them into human’s 3rd dimensional narrow minded words.

    Personnaly, I think that hell is being stuck in the wheel of reincarnations for a much longer time instead of going up to live in another dimension or realm which is more evolved and plaisant, allowing us to evolve under different conditions and live different experiences. Coming back here, on this dense and violent planet or dimension, and live and relive multiple times the same kind of life pattern up to the moment we finally understand and lighten up and discover — finally — our soul vibration.. for me… this is hell and it is the concept that is thought in many ancient teachings.

    Heaven and hell are religious concept that try to materialize highly spiritual concepts… a bit like scientific vulgarisation… but it is also childish concepts. When our souls evolve and grow up in their vibrations, we go beyond those concepts, I think, and discover our true self.

    Heaven is just a better world, a different world we access as we succeed the tests, some kind of graduation and certainly not angels playing harp on clouds in an eternity of gawking bliss. These worlds are not a finality as when we succeed our learning and growth on this one, we go higher and higher, lifetime after lifetime up to the great graduation which is beyond our understanding. Those other dimensions or universes are so different that even the best of the best of the science-fiction writer could not have a glimpse of sparkle of their realities, as there is no human words or concepts to describe them.

    Hell is here, on this planet called Earth and maybe also some others of the same type somewhere in the infinity of the multiple universes. Coming back and stuck in the reincarnation wheel up to the moment — the lifetime — where we finally get it and break the chains that tie us down here.

    Thank you for sharing this with us and have a wonderful day

  23. PavlovsBitch says:

    I find it kind of funny or incredible that anyone can fail to see the evidence of a supremely intelligent and gracious ‘force’ within all of nature, yes, and humane nature. We can observe how not a drop of water is every ‘lost’ but changes form with density. The Sun heats the water on the surface of oceans, rivers, lakes and streams, ice and snow which vaporises into clouds, then returns to continue the cycle on Earth in another flow or form. How much more adventurous is the journey for the soul? Consciousness does not die, it is eternal. Having just caught up with the Ra material, the polarities of light/dark, service to others vs service to self is explained regards this ‘heaven’ and ‘hell’ ideation. 3D is a dual playing field with the self serving forces of higher dimensions seek to ‘recruit’ all. But Love/Light/Unity is the final destination of and for all on the journey back home. I have understood for most of my life that there is a point of separation to come, whereby the self serving will continue on their way as will the those serving others but 3D ain’t that place. It’s starts to get free through the 4th, freer through the 5th and everyone meets in Love Light and Unity finally at the sixth.